The Great Chinese ILDA aser Seal!

[sparket]

Hab heute ein Packerl aus China bekommen (kein Laser) und darin was nettes gefunden, siehe Anhang. Gleich mehrere von diesen Quality Seal super 'ILDA aser' Anhängern!

Besonders nett ist der angegebene Link:

Name: www.ildalaser.com
Address: 192.168.253.173

Ob die sich fragen warum das Business so schlecht läuft??

Hab dann mal bei ILDA geschaut was die eigentlich zu ihrem Namen zu sagen haben...siehe http://www.ilda.wa.org/logopolicy.htm

It IS acceptable to state in text that a product has "an ILDA-compatible connector" -- this is a general use of the association's name.

It IS NOT permitted to state that a connector is "ILDA Compatible" -- this is a specific use where the capital "C" implies that there is some sort of official compatibility certificate or program.

Großes C? Kleines c? Also da muss man sich nicht wundern...nur mal so am Rande bemerkt.

[jojo]

It IS acceptable to state in text that a product has "an ILDA-compatible connector" -- this is a general use of the association's name.

It IS NOT permitted to state that a connector is "ILDA Compatible" -- this is a specific use where the capital "C" implies that there is some sort of official compatibility certificate or program.

Großes C? Kleines c? Also da muss man sich nicht wundern...nur mal so am Rande bemerkt.

Ja, es ist akzeptiert.
Aber nur dann, wenn der Stecker WIRKLICH ILDA-compatible ist!!!
Und Deine Kiste mit dem Logo ist es zu 90% NICHT

Der Unterschied zwischen beiden Ausdrücken ist nur, dass eine Art von Zertifizierung seitens der ILDA derzeit eingeführt wird.
Ich kann meine Software auch "Microsoft Windows XP certified" machen - oder auch nicht. Nur.. FUNKTIONIEREN sollte sie eben in jedem Fall, wenn ich sie für dieses Betriebssystem anbiete und den Namen "XP" verwende.
Und davon kann bei vielen Laserprodukten, die sich mit dem Namen "ILDA" rühmen, nicht die Rede sein.

Joachim

[pmurph5]

The messages are in German so I hope I am understanding your concerns.

At ILDA, one of the biggest issues for the past few months has been the fight against people using ILDA's name in illegal or misleading ways.

ILDA is well aware of ILDALASER.COM and the so-called "ILDA Seal of Quality". We have hired lawyers to advise us. We have worked with eBay to pull listings of laser projectors called "ILDA" and "MYILDA". We have added "TM" to logos at our website, to make clear that "ILDA" is a trademark of the International Laser Display Association. We have researched certification programs to find out what legalities that ILDA must follow. We have added material at our website about proper use of the logo.

We have had some success. The worst-offending eBay auctions have been pulled. We are working on steps to further protect ILDA's trademark, and to take further action against infringement.

On specifics:

The "ILDA Seal of Quality" is of course NOT a product of the International Laser Display Association. As far as I know, it is used by one company, and we have eBay pull their listings whenever this appears. I have not seen it recently on an auction. If you see it, please let me know.

The issue of ILDA compatibility is described at our webpage, http://www.laserist.org/logopolicy.htm. ILDA does not do testing for compatibility at this time.

People are not supposed to use the term "ILDA Compatible" (with a capital
'C') to imply there is some sort of official ILDA compatibility program. It is fine to say in a general sense that a projector is "ILDA compatible" or "meets the ILDA standard".

A bigger problem may be that some companies advertise ILDA compatibility when only one part of their projector is compatible. For example, there may be a DB-25 parallel-port style connector, but the pins and signals are all incompatible. Sure, you can plug it in, but nothing will happen. (At least, not what you want to happen!)

In conclusion, ILDA is aware of these issues and is working on various ways to combat them. The Board feels ILDA's good reputation is worth fighting for.

If you have any questions, or if you see potential misuse, please feel free to write to me directly.

-- Patrick Murphy, ILDA Executive Director
mail@laserist.org
www.laserist.org

[sparket]

Wie gesagt, es ging gar nicht um einen Laser sondern um LED Zeugs, die Anhänger lagen nur zufällig in der Versand-Kiste rum. Fand es nur bemerkenswert, sollte keine Kritik sein oder so Mit dem C c C c hab ich nun auch kapiert.

Ich glaube aber wenn auf einem Produkt 'Certified for WindowsXP' steht dann heisst das schon genau das dieses Produkt von Microsoft für XP 'certifiziert' wurde. Zumindest haben sie ja dafür ein Programm.

But as Patrick says ILDA is working on a certification program as well - hopefully not too expensive thanks for the explanation on ILDA and the actions beeing taken ...