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Post by dj-noboddy » Sat 27 Dec, 2008 3:41 pm

Guten Nachmittag wünsch ich,

ich bin auf der suche nach einem Program mit dem ich rasterscanning betreiben kann.

Freeware währe cool.

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Post by funkydoctor » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 3:29 am

Hi,

auf Anhieb fällt mir ein:

LasergraphDSP (Laseranimation Sollinger)

Showtime/LD2000 (Pangolin)

LA Studio (Pangolin)

Freeware....? - Eher weniger.

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Post by tschosef » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 10:37 am

Hai hai..

ich hab sowas mal in HE- eingebaut... aber so wirklich gut geht das nicht. is eher ne scanner quälerei.

wozu brauchst du das?

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Post by gento » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 11:33 am

Jede Software kann Rasterscanning.

Die Frage sollte wohl eher lauten :Welche Software kann Bitmaps direkt zur Ausgabe verarbeiten.
Frames von 100x100 Pixeln bei 20 HZ benöten 200 Kpps.

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Post by guido » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 12:55 pm

Hi,

die Show "Linea" von Pango zeigt man gern mal jemanden der
es noch nie gesehen hat, aber im Grunde ist Rasterscanning nur
Quälerei für die Scanner.

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Post by dixiscan » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 5:41 pm

Hi,

Rasterscanning is scanning the whole picture.
La Linea (free to get around the internet in ILDA format) is not rasterscaning, but outline tracing ! :shock:
It traces only the 'border' between light and dark spots of your picture, like Mamba's VST or TraceIt from Pangolin and HE. :D

Peter Mayer (Medialas) tried to implement real VIDEO rasterscanning into MambaBlack a few years ago, but the results where bad that time, so they disabled this function in MB. :?

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Post by decix » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 6:23 pm

Das war ein Griff ins DixiKlo :mrgreen:
"La Linea" = Cartoon/Animation
"Linea" = Pangolin Rasterscanning Demo

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Post by yosh76 » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 10:27 pm

Ergänzend fällt mir noch LDS ein...
Allerdings ist die Funktion dort nur eingeschränkt nutzbar.

Dann habe ich in einer Version vom Easylase Testtool (Freeware für Easylase Owner) einen Reiter für Rasterscanning gefunden.
Bildchen laden klappt - Ausgabe aber irgendwie nicht...

JoJo kannst Du mal was dazu schreiben?

Ich habs mal angehängt... Hoffe, dass das OK ist (funzt ja eh nur mit Easylase :-) )
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Post by gento » Sun 28 Dec, 2008 10:42 pm

Ich sollte mal ein Tool schreiben , BMP,JPG,Animierte Gif's >@Ilda/Cat :roll:

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Post by guido » Mon 29 Dec, 2008 8:36 am

Yosh,

Jojo kann da nix zu schreiben weil das Ding meine Baustelle ist.
Ich habs mal programmiert, Bitmap rein, runterrechnen auf eine
vernünftige Rastergrösse von ca 75x75 Punkten und das Bildpunkt für
Bildpunkt auf die Easylase pusten.

Aber beim runterrechnen liegt der Knackpunkt. Wenn du ein "normales"
Bild von auch nur 640x480 auf 75x75 Punkte runterrechnest bleibt nicht
viel Info über...

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Post by dj-noboddy » Tue 30 Dec, 2008 1:17 pm

huii..

Sorry das ich heute erst antworte; Bin momentan total krank und Sylvester morgen fällt auch flach =(.

Also..

Ich brauches nicht UNBEDINGT.. es ist nur was was ich mal versuchen wollte.

Ich meine mal unter der "Projektor"-Sparte ein Rastergescantes Bild geehen zu haben. muss ich gleich noch mal schaun wer das war.

Das was man mit VST von Mamba machen kann ist nich das was ich will..

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Post by dixiscan » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 1:19 pm

Hi,
Maybe this BMP-to-Raster program will help you further:
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Doesn't work!
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Post by dixiscan » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 1:58 pm

Strange, it's working here on 3 different computers...
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Post by gento » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 1:58 pm

Image
geht z.T.

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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:15 pm

Here it doesent work on 2 computers.......

I only start the EXE file.. doesent work =(

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Post by dixiscan » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:18 pm

Great Gento !

On internet you can find a lot of free software that can convert video AVI files into 'batch BMP' files. (A lot of still pictures next to eachother)

Gento, you are quite good in programming.
Can you re-program this RasterConvert software in a way, that it can open/load batch BMP files fast and send the ILDA output to the laser?

So, the sequence will than be:
-AVI to Batch BMP
-Batch BMP load in RasterConvert
-Batch ILDA to Laser output

(you can give your answer in your own language)
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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:18 pm

Stupid :D

I searched für the missing file.. found.. paste .. work.. THX..

Aber Gento? Ich kannte das vom Rasterscannen nur so , das nur die Längslinien gescannt werden? Bei dir sieht es so aus als würden da noch welche horizontal verlaufen..?

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Post by gento » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:21 pm

Ilda Format 0 :cry:
Bild nicht zentrisch und was dazu gemogelt. :cry:
Links ist alles glatt gebügelt. :cry:
Unsichtbare äußere Linien sollten größere Sprünge haben. :cry:
Save as fehlt. :cry:
Es sollte ein Zeilenrücksprung möglich sein.

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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:23 pm

Mhh,. auch das man keine großen Bilder laden kann und die dann automatisch verkleinert werden =(....

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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:38 pm

Ergebnis...

22K
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K12n
Live sieht es besser aus =)
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Post by dixiscan » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:42 pm

This gives a better result compared with the Bitmap trace function in Mamba itself? :?:
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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:45 pm

Trace?.. I show you.. mom

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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 2:49 pm

Mhh noo no way.

You know the Stripshow? Thats made with this tracingtool by medialas...

I Can' t do something like that that moment.. only it looks like crap :)
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Post by guido » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 3:05 pm

@Rainer,

es gibt eine Delphi Komponente "Graphic32" oder "Graphics32"
Ist Freeware und hat diverse Size / Stretchoptionen die besser als
die von Delphi funktionieren.
Wenn du sie nicht findest mail ich sie dir zu.

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Post by dixiscan » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 3:16 pm

Don't bite me Lukas, I'm trying to help you ! :?

No, I mean the Bitmap tracing function in Mamba.


Another tool that could be useful. AVI to BMP convert.
Please see attachment. (And don't say it's not working again) :wink:
Open an small AVI file, than press Save Subset. The whole AVI will be converted. :D

If Gento can now write software that can read all these BMP's (so called batch BMP) automatically in that RasterScanning program, we are a little bit closer to real Rasterscanning, is it?

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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 3:22 pm

I'm sorry.. My english isn't very well.. read my last post .. I Edited it!

Playing with the tool makes fun...

Verschlusszeit: 2 / 4 sec @ 1K :D:D
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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 3:26 pm

A.. now I understand..

The BMP Tracing in Mamba ONLY traces the outer lines of the figure wich is shown!

a pitty....

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Post by decix » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 3:35 pm

Mach doch bitte auch mal ein Foto davon wie das im Vergleich aussieht...
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Post by dj-noboddy » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 3:45 pm

So.. 1/2s belichtet.. Flackert aber erkennbar!! (viel Feiner).. Mein Grün Spackt nur =(
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Post by gento » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 4:41 pm

Guido wrote: "Graphics32"
Würde ILDA 5 bevorzugen.
Hab ich schon länger.

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Post by wicky » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 5:17 pm

Hey Guys,

There is a Mamba Black demo version available on the internet WITH A VIDEO RASTER function.
I thought everyone did know that :shock:

It can be downloaded here: http://awesomefileupload.com/?Download*d16b41013
(Click "Download Link")

Just click the 'camera' button next to the LivePlayer button.

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Post by far » Sun 04 Jan, 2009 6:09 pm

Yes thats right but i don't get it to work. It opens a Video but how do i get it out of my Laser?

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Post by dj-noboddy » Mon 05 Jan, 2009 10:03 am

Überhaupt nicht; Demo...

Diese Funktion gab es schon vor einigen Jahren einmal...

Wundert mich das sie wieder auftaucht.

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